Showing posts with label Dell. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Dell. Show all posts

Thursday, February 01, 2007

Miller Comment on Dell


"We’ve made 30 to 40 times on our money in both Dell and AOL. Most investors rarely hold companies long enough to make 30 to 40 times their money. They’re lucky if they make 50, 100 or 200 percent. We’ve got not only 10-baggers, but 20-, 30- and 40-baggers. (10-bagger is a term popularized by Peter Lynch for a stock that increases 10 fold from your purchase price.) You get those only if you actually invest in companies as opposed to trading them and trying to guess when the stock is going to pull back. We don’t spend time trying to guess stock price action. We spend our time trying to value businesses. "

"When we analyzed Dell, for example, in February 1996, that was a period when you had rumbles of Fed tightening and everybody thought we were going to have a recession. Investors had sold tech stocks down to levels that looked to us to offer an opportunity. Most value people at the time were buying paper, steel, and aluminum, which also were down in the dumps. When we did all the valuation work on those companies, we concluded thay were not terribly attractive or mispriced by the market. Their business fundamentals were poor and were likely to remain so. On the other hand, when we looked at Dell, trading at the time around $1-2 on a split-adjusted basis, we saw a company that had a superior business model, excellent competitive advantages, growing at 25 to 30 percent a year, earning 30 percent on invested capital, and trading at five times earnings. Why would we ever buy a paper company at five times what they hope to earn if paper prices go up if we can buy a terrific company at five times today’s earnings? When we got further into the detail of the business, it looked to us that the market had systematically misunderstood the potential of the company. Historically, PC companies traded between 6 to 12 times earnings. Even when value investors were buying PC companies, they would buy at 5 to 6 times earnings, and sell when they got to 12 times earnings because that was the peak multiple these companies historically had attained. When we analyzed Dell, we concluded it was worth at least 25 times earnings as a business. If you were to buy the whole company, you would pay up to 25 times earnings, whereas the market had peaked valuation out historically at around 12 times. We thought it was worth about five times what the market thought it was worth. It’s highly unusual to find things that appear to be that mispriced, so we loaded up on it. As it turned out, we were right. We actually underestimated the ability of management to execute what turned out to be a very superior business model. Fortunately, because what we do is dynamic valuation, our models are updated every quarter or more often as we get more fundamental data. We’re always trying to figure out the underlying business value and the intrinsic value of the company. Earlier in 1999, Dell reached a level where we thought it was moderately overpriced, so we sold a fairly significant portion of it."

Friday, March 24, 2006

Blue Chips or Potato Chips?

Often, when we invest in equities, people told to invest in Blue Chips for the sake of stability. The Blue Chips normally stand for the companies who are the market leader in their industry. For example, General Motor (GM) in car industry, Dell in computer, Microsoft in software industry, Wal-Mart in retailing and so forth. Are the Blue Chips really a good investment? Why not we examine some to get some ideas?

Google, the world top leading search engine as per 23rd March 2006 has market capitalization of $101.04 billion ($341.89/share). Its Price Earnings (PE) stands at 68.09 with Earnings Per Share (EPS) at $5.02. No dividend paid out so far.

What does it mean? With PE of 68.09, it means when you invest in Google at the current price, you need to wait for 68.09 years to get back all the dollars you invested. The inflationary factor not calculated on this matter. Say, you invest a share of Google with $341.89 in 2006, you need to wait until 2074 to get back $341.89. Please note the value of $341.89 in 2074 is TOTALLY DIFFERENCE with the value in 2006. Of course your invest return period could be shorten if there are some positive progress. For example, for the coming years, Google earns spectacular earnings years after years which mean its EPS more than $5.02. It might be $10, $30, $75 or even $300! Who knows? One things for sure is high growth normally will not long last. It could grew at the rate of 20%, 40%, 80% or even 200% per year. But, to continue such high growth rate for 10 years, 20 years or 50 years, there is only one route: OUT OF THE PLANET EARTH.

Baidu, Chinese top search engine saw its price drop since its 1st day closing price at $122.54. As per 23rd March 2006, its price stands at $50.60. Is it a bargain since its price drops more than half of its peak? To answer the question, let’s look at its fundamentals. Its PE is 273.51 with EPS $0.19. No Dividend paid out before. Even tough its price drops more than half from its peak, its PE seems at the sky rocket end with only tiny earnings. Is it a good investment choice? Ask to the RIGHT candidate – RATIONALITY.

VA Linux, once a darling star of the dot com mania who is tagged as “Next Microsoft” peaked at $320. The price quoted in 23rd March 2006? $3.65. The lost of almost 99% of its value. Enhancing shareholders value? Yes, it is but with reverse direction. At 3.65, its PE stands at 32.88 and EPS of $0.11. No dividend ever paid out.

Wal-Mart Stores listed in New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) since 1970 is the world top retailer. It outpaces its rival such as French Carrefour, UK based Tesco and German Metro. Its price on 23rd March 2006 was $48.54. Its PE stands at 18.10 and EPS at $2.68. Its dividend paid out translates to 1.40% yield.

How about a legendary “Oracle of Omaha”, Warren Buffett’s holding company, Berkshire Hathaway Inc.? Its price as in 23rd March 2006 was $90,000. Yes, $90,000 per share! Its fundamental? PE at 16.25 and EPS of $5,538.47! There is no dividend paid out since its listing. (Note: the price quoted here is Class A share. There are 2 classes of Berkshire’s share: Class A and Class B where the price of latter is 1/30 of the former.)
Though the examples, I believe RATIONAL investment judgment could be made. After all, what we need for our investment portfolio is the REAL blue chips which are always there but not the potato chips which its destiny to be eaten up.

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